Central Park II status in February 2013

This is an update on the construction status of Central Park II on Sohna Road Gurgaon in Feb 2013. 

For Tower 1 to 9, although approx 300 families are living in the complex, there has been no progress in completion of common facilites. The builder has not created the club, nursery school, creche, EWS quarters, Primary school etc which fall in the Tower 1 to 9 area. The multipurpose halls on rooftops of Tower 3 & 4 were also not handed over to RWA. The roads in the area were completely damaged by the builders trucks, yet no repairs have been done to them so far. There is water leakages in all basements and seepage in due to poor quality of construction in most apartments. Overall ,the condominium is in a sorry state of affairs and the residents are completely dejected.

Image in Feb 2013. See the previous post of Sept 2012 - almost same.

For Towers 10 to 19, it seems like the possession of all these 9 towers will be given together - maybe in a year time. It's very difficult to predict when these towers will be completed - because the exterior hasn't seen much changes in the past 1 year and the interiors are fully done up - which takes a lot of time.  The best prediction could be March 2014 before anyone could live here, if it happens before that, great! Towers 10-12 have seen some progress but Tower 17 - 19 have a lot of work pending in them.

A fence is being created to prevent Tower 10-19 residents from accessing the construction area. The central garden is partially dug up because of the foundation work of the central two towers. The location of the foundation suggests the towers are not being created as per previous plans or as per what was shown in initial brochures etc - which is sure to attract some litigation.  These towers will take at least 3 to 4 years, based on past records, to be completed.

For Towers 20 to 26, the structure work is in progress and the structure should be ready within 2013. It might be somewhere in 2015 by when these towers could see some sort of completion, provided everything remains stable, including the economy, legal status of the project etc.

Due to the random layout changes made by builder and other issues, the Residents Association has gone to court, wherein the court has instructed the Govt agencies involved to resolve all the issues within 3 months time.  You can see in the updated map that layout of all Tower 20 to 26 have been changed and now the layout of central two towers also seems changed. 





Overall, it looks like the entire project might get completed by 2018. Till that time, all residents will have to live amidst the construction dust during the day, noise & lights at night, besides the issue of poor security. During this time too, residents will have to suffer the abysmal quality of construction including faculty lifts, broken roads,water leakage in basements, lack of proper management of affairs etc. 

Did someone say "The Exclusive Resort that is your home?" Welcome to Central Park II.

Central Park II Construction update - Sept 2012

This is an update on the construction status of Central Park 2 in Sohna Road Gurgaon as on Sept 2012.
For tower 1 to 9, while structure work has been completed and residents have started living (over 200 families so far), a lot of construction is still pending.  The clubhouse, nursery school, EWS quarters, creche etc are all pending - only the work on clubhouse was going on.

For about the past 1 month, all construction work has stopped because of some Court Order preventing use of bore-well water etc.  Even the work on clubhouse of Tower 1 to 9 has been stopped along with work of Tower 10 to 26, we believe a lot of construction sites in Gurgaon are facing similar issues.

For towers 10, 11, 12 & 14, the final finishing work is on. The interior work is being done but our estimate is that  no one will be able to move into these towers before July 2013.

For towers 15 to 19, the status is even worse, it might take over 1.5 years to complete them as structure work is still going on. 

The status of Tower 20 to 26 is show below.  Lets assume 2.5 years before anyone moves into them. That would be somewhere around March 2015. 

The plot for 2 Bel Air Towers is just lying vacant as seen here, these towers have not yet been launched at it's impossible to give any kind of estimate on when they would be ready until the work starts. 

 Due to all this construction going on, the incomplete Central Garden has no future. It is neither accessible by existing residents, nor can it be completed.

While all these delays continue, residents of Belgravia are now getting together to drag the builder to court. This is in addition to existing cases filed by Bellevue owners.

Central Park II Gurgaon Aug 2011 Update

Aug 2011 : The work on the Central Garden has started in Central Park 2.  Even before the work started, a controversy has been unleashed, while the builder has always claimed the Central Garden to be 20 Acres, the sanctioned layout plans show the size of the area to be 8.1 Acres. 

Central Garden in Central Park II - 20 Acres or 8.1 Acres?

The development of the garden will take a long time from the looks of it, at least it's begun in right earnest. 

Meanwhile, construction of towers in 10 - 14 is at it's slowest pace ever. In fact, no progress is visible for the past few months, at this rate there will be a significant delay in finishing these towers and it's unlikely they will be complete in 2012.

Tower 10 to 14 as on Aug 2011

If you see the progress of towers 15 to 19, that's even more appalling. For some reason, towers 18 and 19 are just not being made at the same pace as other towers.

Towers 15, 16 and 17 under construction in Aug 2011

Towers 18 and 19 in Aug 2011. When will they be ready?

Basement construction work for towers 20 - 22 has just started while excavation till towers 26 is complete. 

Basement of Towers 20-22 in Aug 2011

The only thing that's been completed is the Swimming pool in front of tower 7 to 9. The possession of apartments in towers 8 and 9 is being given and owners are busy sorting out defects and flaws.

Swimming pool with kids pool and changing room.

Builder has also completed their ambition of completely segregating the residents of tower 1 to 9 by building a wall near the entrance gate, preventing access to Belfort or Belgravia. Of course, this is despite all the protests of the RWA formed by residents. It remains to be seen how this matter is resolved.

Update July 2011. Major delays in Belgravia

The unending saga of delays continue in the Central Park II project.

Please see our previous post here that showed a Belgravia ad with a delivery promise of Dec 2010. This was followed by another ad in Jan 2011 that promised delivery in Dec 2011 which we detailed in this post.

It is now July 2011 and Central Park II has further delayed the delivery of Belgravia Apartments. The latest ad, dated 9th July 2011 in the Times of India, Delhi edition promised delivery by July 2012, here it is.

What's further interesting is that there is still a conditions apply to the July 2012 and from the actual progress of the building, you can bet it will be more delayed.  This board was on the construction site a few months ago to deceive potential buyers:

On another note, the ad mentions the following:
No of units 1445 excluding EWS 192 and Domestic Units 150.  While the EWS was known from before, what are these 150 domestic units in Central Park II? No one knows.

For Towers 1 to 9, all kinds of woes continue. While the work on clubhouse is yet to start, there is no agreement between the builder and the CP2RWA on the size of the clubhouse, facilities etc. Both swimming pools are not useable due to various issues. Most buildings are facing massive water and seepage issues, the lifts of 2 of the buildings have got damaged due to water leakage. Residents live in high floors of the building and are feeling stranded.
Tower 8 residents have received their offer of possession, this being the last tower offered for possession in Tower 1 to 9, however finishing work remains from the builders side in towers 7 to 9.

Overall, the status of affairs is very dismissal and owners feel not only let down by the builder, they are garnering support to take action against them.

Central Park II Gurgaon March 2011 update

The hyper-delayed project Central Park 2 continues to crawl at an extremely slow pace. Expect further reduction in speed as Holi approches this month and a lot of their labor force will vanish for a few months.

Not only this, the prices of properties in the project have also stalled and started showing a down-ward trend with word getting out that the builder has compromised on promises, quality and features.

Here are the latest pictures:

Tower 10 - Which was promised for delivery in Dec 2010 with interiors matching that of sample apartment. Owners will be lucky if they get possession somewhere in 2013.

The beautiful 20 Acre Central Garden for which Crores worth of PLC has been charged. It is now becoming evident that the Garden is not even 9 acres. If you believe it is 20 acres, try to get a written statement from the builder that the central garden will be exactly 20 acres as promised.

Tower 7 that was promised for delivery in Oct 2010, then Dec 2010 as final, than Jan 2011, then Feb 11... half the buildings interiors are not complete. Notice Tower 8 next to it?

Tower 8 is a mystery no one is able to solve. From rumors of structural defect including bulging on walls to contractors running away for non payment, we've heard it all. Fact is, there's no progress so far and it's unlikely to be ready before July - Aug 2011.

After 5 years of construction, 2 more floors have been added to Belfort towers in the past couple of months. Can't predict when they'll be ready.

The swimming pool around towers 7,8 and 9 - no construction work on this yet. How will residents of these towers live in them with a dangerous, incomplete structure in between?

Feb 2011 update of central park 2 progress

Here's the latest satellite image dated 04 Feb 2011 of Central Park II. A large version of the pic is available here: http://www.cp2rwa.org/images/Feb2011pic.jpg

As you can see, the project is far from reality. The construction mess is all around the site, there's no sign of a central vista or garden for which PLC was charged from all the front facing apartments. The primary school, nursery school, creche and clubhouse for towers 1 to 9 have not yet been built as promised in 2004-2005 till date. Towers 15 to 29 are also significantly delayed while the structure for towers 10 to 14 seems to be up. Around towers 7 to 9, lot of construction work is going on - these towers are not even handed over to owners. The two Belfort towers near the entrance are also still under construction.

In the 5 years between 2005 and 2010, CP2 has managed to construct only 6 towers. These 6 towers are full of defects. Walls have seepage in them, tiles are of extremely poor and 3rd grade quality, electrical wiring is not properly done (some place, the conduit pipes are missing), underground parking is not yet ready, swimming pools had leaking issues and had to be emptied out within 10 days of water being filled, promised water bodies around towers 1 to 6 that were created were also leaking and had to be shut ..the list goes on.

People are now asking when rest of towers will be completed - I'm sure God will have a difficulty in predicting that too. If you see the archives of this blog from March 2009, every prediction made so far has failed on completion of towers.

Look at the picture further, on the right is Uniworld Garden. The sale of this started in 2005, around the same year as CP2. People have been living in the completed project from 2009 onwards and the prices are about Rs. 1000 per sq ft higher than CP2.

It is strange that even in a messed up project like this, people are buying apartments. I don't know what attracts them, maybe it's the low prices compared to nearby properties. Or maybe they don't get to meet some owners of apartments in CP2 so they aren't making informed decisions.

From the looks of this, the new prediction for completion of the CP2 project is 2020. The date 2020 is also valid only if the project doesn't get into litigation before that. Anyone who says a day earlier than that better make some calculations and share with us. Remember that the 2 central premium towers haven't even been approved yet. Also, the real estate market seems to be cooling off so it's going to be some time before they can sell those towers. Then the construction will begin ...and will go on and on and on...

Belgravia Owners - Wake up !

All those who own apartments in Belgravia of Central Park 2 should be reminded of this advertisement published in page 6 of the Times of India, Delhi Edition dated 18 June 2010. It clearly states that the apartments will be ready for fitouts in Dec 2010. Of course there's a "#conditions apply" to it but that doesn't mean you delay the date by a couple of years, does it?
Not specially if you're publishing the ad in June 2010 saying we've completed 30 months of construction, only 6 more months left and then delay it by a year or two more.

As per a very renowned lawyer, if a contract is to build something in 36 months, a normal delay of 10% of the time is acceptable, any delay beyond that would mean investors and owners can seek interest and compensation.

Belgravia owners should be prepared for a long battle ahead.

Letter at time of possession

This is the format of letter I gave at the time of receiving possession of my apartment in Cp2.



Mr. Amarjit Bakshi, CEO & Board Member
Sweta Estates Pvt. Ltd.
3rd Floor, Tower D, Global Business Park,
MG Road, Gurgaon-122002 15th January 2011

Dear Sir,

Sub: Forcible signing of illegal affidavit and payment of Escalation
Charges

I am being forced to sign an illegal affidavit under duress while taking possession of My Apartment No. XX A/B/C in Tower X in Central Park 2, saying that I have no issues with Central Park Estates Pvt. Ltd. and Sweta Estates Pvt. Ltd.and the Apartment is according to the Buyer- Seller Agreement. (Which it is not). In addition you are charging Escalation from me for the delay in construction which is totally due to your own making. I have to take possession immediately as I am paying an exhorbitant rent at my current place of stay and also paying hefty interest on my Home Loan. Although the amenities promised to me are either not ready or are not being provided and my apartment also is in a bad shape due to inferior construction and poor workmanship, I am taking possession under protest and without prejudice to my rights to pursue claims that I may have in Law or otherwise and nothing herein shall be construed as waiver there of.



(XXXX)
Owner of Apartment No. XX X Tower XX

Copy To:
Customer Relations Manager, Sweta Estates Pvt. Ltd.
Vice President, Central Park Estates Pvt. Ltd.

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Will it ever get over?

The Central Park 2 project has no deadline. It is an endless story of delays and failures.

Many customers have mails from officials in the company with varying dates for completion of towers 7,8 and 9 from July 2010, then Oct 2010 then end of 2010 - none of these dates have been met. In fact, it seems like all work has now come to a halt in Tower 8 totally - take a look at this :

While Tower 7 on the right has been painted and the windows have been fixed, work on tower 8 has been on a stand still for the past 3 months.

Around and inside tower 8, there is absolute chaos.

Now if tower 7 owners are asked for their payments or even offered possession, how will they live in it with all the construction around?

Just near these towers is this incomplete structure of an abandoned swimming pool which is being attempted to be converted into a cheaper amphi theatre. Whatever this structure is being made into, it will take months to complete.

In all, it is fair to say that towers 7,8 and 9 will not be ready for possession for the next 6 to 9 months. All those who have made payments for these structures might as well just sit and twiddle their thumb while the company earns interest on their money.

The only satisfaction they can is have that they paid a bit less than owners of towers 10 to 18, the construction of which has also been abandoned midway. In the past 4 months, I have not seen one new brick added to this photo :

In fact, there was not one person working on these towers yesterday. Their delivery was Dec 2010. Expect it to be completed by January. Which year, no one knows.

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Construction Update : 29 Dec 2010

It's end December 2010 now. Owners of Phase 2 in CP2 who were promised delivery in Dec 2010 must be disappointed, this is what their towers look like and here's a panoramic view of what the status look like, click on the picture to see a proper view

Work for towers 23,24,25,26 is just beginning , you can see the excavation being done in Dec 2010 here :

We're hearing of plans to move the EWS quarters from where it was shown in the layout to a location in this corner. That would mean it will be right in front of towers 1 to 6.

This is where the EWS quarters were supposed to be, along with the Primary school. The school location is now a generator room :

This was the actual dream 5 year ago, just for reference.

Status of site - December 2010

The boundary wall around towers 7,8 and 9. Doesn't look like a temp structure.

20 Acres of green with jogging track - ready as promised?

Construction status - towers 10 to 13

Promised swimming pool for towers 7,8 and 9

Abandoned during construction

Construction of these towers near Sohna Road entrance started in 2006 and restarted in Dec 2010. I think they're called Belfort. At this rate, they will be delivered in 2024 A.D

CP2 Phase 1 : The end is not near

Central Park 2 Phase 1

These are pics of towers 8 and 9 as of today :

The towers are not at all complete. It will take anywhere between 3 - 9 months before the towers are ready to be offered for possession.

Completed towers 1 to 6 which were offered for possession in Sept 2010 are still not occupied as there is much to be completed inside the apartments.

At this rate, it'll be a miracle if anyone can live in towers 7,8 and 9 in the year 2011.

FORMATION OF CP2 RWA

A successful meeting of the Apartment Owners of Central Park 2 Apartment Complex, Sohna Road, Gurgaon was held on 5th December 2010 to immediately form a Residents Welfare Association (RWA). Most members attended the meeting in person while rest expressed their

support through phone and emails.

It was agreed that all efforts to improve facilities at Central Park 2 can be coordinated through the RWA. Please highlight any issues you have and would like addressed by emailing eskay2112@rediffmail.com

Members are also requested to inform other owners of CP2 apartments to join the discussion group at : http://groups.google.com/group/centralpark2

CP2 Residents.

Swimming Pool Removed

 

You see the Swimming  pool in front of towers 7,8 and 9 ? The builder has confirmed that it has decided to remove it from the project. Just like that.

I hope they don't suddenly decide to remove a lot of other things.

Visit to site : 26 Oct 2010

I visited the site yesterday. Here are some updates :

a. All towers 1 to 6 are being offered possession. 2 families have already started living in towers 3 - 4 now, interior work of many apartments is going on. I checked out some apartments where the interior work was being done - i think many more families can move in within a month's time.

b. I walked around the towers 1 - 6 area, it looks pretty much complete. The swimming pool and gym will be operational in another 2 months. They were installing the AC's for the gym yesterday. The club house is on the roof of towers 3 - 4 but can be accessed from any of towers 1 - 6's roofs, it might take 2 - 3 months to complete. 

c. Towers 7,8 and 9 are still far away from being ready. I went up tower 9 to a few floors, the lifts are not installed, firefighting equipment is partially installed and some flooring work is still pending. I think it will be Jan or Feb before these towers become livable. 

d. There is a second swimming pool and smaller gym in between towers 7, 8 and 9. 

e. They have started growing grass in the 20 acre central park now. From tower 9, I could see that a lot of it has been cleared up and is starting to become green. It might not become accessible soon but at least it's not an eyesore and there won't be a lot of dust. 

f. I discussed the boundary wall around towers 7,8 and 9. It will remain forever but access through the wall will be provided to the central park. It think that's ok and the wall should remain - at least till the construction is all over (will take at least 5 years) - for security reasons. After that, it will be the RWA's decision on what to do with it. 

g. The Raheja mall opp CP2 has also started opening up. There's a Subway functional, there a departmental store - SRS Value Bazaar and an LG showroom coming up already. 

Overall, my feeling is it would be made a great place to live in once its ready and teething issues resolved. My mid 2011, it would look like a regular occupied residential complex. And by the way, the rain damaged Sohna Road is finally under repair. 

Visit to the site

I was allowed to enter the site and towers of Phase 1 on 21st Aug 2010. Here is what I saw :

1. Towers 1 to 6 are almost complete. The apartments need to be cleaned and handed over, most of the other work is done. The entrance of the building has a large lobby which is nice. Iron grills for all open spaces are in place, the walkway leading to the entrance has stone and wooden linings, each tower number is clearly marked on a large black granite stone outside the building.

2. Towers 7, 8 and 9 are incomplete, both externally and internally. Tiles are not yet in place, flooring and bathroom fittings haven't been placed. Paintwork is pending and all the external work is also pending. It will be at least 2 -3 months before towers 7,8 and 9 reach the stage where towers 1 - 6 is today.

3. There is NO clubhouse anywhere. There is a structure near the swimming pool for towers 1 to 6 that looks like the changing room, besides that, there is no structure where the clubhouse could be!

4. Between towers 7,8 and 9, there is another swimming pool. There is also a large cemented ring - which looks like either a skating rink or tennis court (cemented?)

5. Inside the apartment - this is interesting - the C type apartments have a really large study. The master bedroom also has a nice area for walk-in closet. The study is small in the A & B type apartments.

6. The quality of most of the fittings used is very very poor. The main door lock - for example- is so light and of poor quality that a hard push could open the door. The tiles - specially in the bathroom -is of ugly color and cheap quality. All the taps - though of Jaguar brand - and very small and looks fake. The commodes and washbasin are small - and white. The bathtub in A & B type apartments are too small, it's decent sized  in C type apartments.  The electrical switches are also of some cheap make.  I suppose a lot of investments will have to be made to do up the apartment if one expects to live in it.

7. Overall, compared to other apartments in Gurgaon, the layout is nice. In terms of actual size, the 2350 Sq Ft apartment is almost of the same size as the 1890 Sq Ft apartments in Central Park 1.  The actual floor area looks about 1600 - 1700 Sq Ft - not more.   The ground floor apartments - which were supposed to be used for common purposes earlier - have been sold by CP2, so the super builtup area should have come down but it hasn't.

8. The bedroom sizes are small - and there is no place for built-in cabinets. The wooden floor is the cheapest quality laminate flooring of an ugly orangish color.

9. The biggest worry. There is a boundary wall segregating towers 1 to 6 from 7,8 and 9. There is another boundary wall segregating towers 7,8 and 9 from the rest of the project. All together, these towers cannot access the "Central Vista" where the large parks and jogging track will be unless these walls are removed. The entrance and exit gates for Phase 1 is separate from the entrance gate for the rest of the project.   If the boundary wall looked like a temporary structure, I would have thought that it was temporary till the rest of construction continued but from the looks of it, it seems like a very permanent structure.

10. One nice thing, the entrance to Raheja Mall is exactly on the opp side of the road. Though the mall is vacant now (except for a Subway that opened last week), it will be very convenient to just walk across to the mall for daily needs.

I'm making the google group - http://groups.google.com/group/centralpark2 the official place for residents to discuss.  Once you sign up, the email for the group is  centralpark2@googlegroups.com  to which you send send mails to discuss anything.

New updates - August 2010

Some updates :

1. For phase 1, Escalation fixed at Rs. 320 per sq ft
2. Club membership - Rs. 1 Lakh
3. Penalty for delay being given only for 4 months
4. No clubhouse building - parts of club is spread out within the apartment complex. Also means no community hall !
5. Possession started for towers 3-4 only
6. Belfort is a name of new towers sold in the CP2 complex - not even updated on the official company website. 1 and 2 BR studio apartments in this tower - completely sold out!

Phase 1 still stuck, Phase 2 shows progress

These pictures were updated on 22nd May 2010. Phase 1 is still stuck, towers 1 to 6 have been painted from the front side but not in the rear. Towers 7, 8 and 9 are as they were.  It's only in Phase 2 that you can see some floors coming up.

No progress updates after February

The last official updates done on centralpark.in was in Feb 2010. Here are the pictures for phase 1 and 2.